Do you agree people who are unconcerned with tidiness are more creative?
Examples please!

Anything !
An open Group where anything can be discussed by anybody, as long as you are polite, respect others opinions, and behave !!!
Open Loop 859
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A programme not to be missed. Chronicling racism in America. A real shocker. Sunday 25th August 9pm BBC2. Don’t miss.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3k1NBSJclPP7vCrTg2qzlDM/mobeen-azhar-on-why-the-murder-of-larnell-bruce-is-part-of-a-broader-story-about-race-in-america-today -
Who watched this programme on Channel 4 earlier this week?
I watched it on All4 last night with my sister who's had kids. Wanted to watch it after hearing there were a lot of complaints and also someone even started an online petition to ban the programme saying it was child cruelty.
We thought the programme was really good and there was nothing cruel about her methods and they were very effective. It was as much about training the parents as it was stopping the kids tantrums. -
Predict the result of Norwich v Chelsea
LIve TV match tomorrow 12.30pm
Norwich 0 Chelsea 2 Tammy Abraham to score
Watford 2 West Ham 2 Troy Deeney to score -
Happy to announce that NPO Voluntary Action South West Surrey has joined us.
We'll be looking to work with NPOs in other areas to look for places where we can contribute our efforts!
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Your home address apparently.
I didn't know this as not needed my CV for over 10 years. According to a careers advisor my sister spoke to last week she said you should only have your name and a contact that doesn't give away where you live. Like your email or mobile number. She said that whats been happening is employers look up your address to see what kind of area it is and use it to decide whether to call you in for interview. Also to see how you would get to work by public transport and deciding how likely you would be late. -
Holy Helter Skelter or Crazy Golf?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-49389623
https://www.premier.org.uk/News/UK/Holy-in-one-Rochester-Cathedral-opens-crazy-golf-course
Or do you prefer a Prosecco and Gin Festival in Peterborough coming weekend?
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How hanging an air freshner, or fluffy dice, from your mirror could cost you £1,000 !!
RAC warning
An air freshener hanging from your rear-view mirror could be enough to land you with a £1,000 fine and 3 points on your licence, police are warning.
A new crackdown could deem anything from invasive sat navs, fluffy dice, stickers and dirty windscreens to be obstructing a driver’s view of the road.
Even if the £100 on-the-spot fine is escaped, insurers may refuse to pay out if a driver is involved in an accident while driving with obstructed vision. If the case is taken to court, the fine can increase to £1,000 as well.
While not actually illegal to drive with dirty windscreens or large air fresheners, according to the Highway Code and the Road Traffic Act, drivers are breaking the law if their view of the road is obstructed in any way.
Road Traffic Law states that: “No person shall drive or cause or permit any other person to drive a motor vehicle on a road if he is in such a position that he cannot have proper control of the vehicle or have a full view of the road and traffic ahead.”
It is under this legislation that police have been clamping down on drivers whose vision of the road is obscured by objects placed on or around their windscreen.
The Highway Code states: “Windscreens and windows must be kept clean and free from obstructions to vision." This means that even having a dirty windscreen might be cause for police to pull you over. -
Child Rescue Alerts - This Alert has now been closed - Thank you (Edited)
Child Rescue Alerts - This Alert has now been closed - Thank you
2 children have been reported missing from Camberwell and may be in your area.
If you have any information please contact the police on 999
Details known at this time are as follows:
Katherine and Janet were last seen at 22.30 on Sunday 18th August in the Camberwell area. The police are extremely concerned for their welfare, anyone with any information is urged to contact 999 quoting reference: 19MIS032734
Name: Janet Oyekunle (Shown in the second picture with the long hair)
Missing From: Camberwell
Date went missing: 18/08/2019 10:30 PM
Age: 16
Gender: Female
Height: 5' 4"
Description: Janet is 5'4", described as slim build with a nose ring and long braided hair with red tips. Wearing grey trousers, grey t-shirt, black tights and black jacket.
Name: Katherine Garcia (Shown in the first picture wearing yellow)
Missing From: Camberwell
Date went missing: 18/08/2019 10:30 PM
Age: 17
Gender: Female
Height: 5' 4"
Description: Katherine is 5'4", described as medium build with brown eyes and shoulder-length brown hair. -
Check Your Car Tax, MOT and Insurance (Edited)
If you do not know when your car tax and MOT are due or whether the car is insured, just enter the car registration on this link - https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-tax
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Scoop loop - the local social media site (Edited)
The amount of local news comment threads etc
Seems to be dying by the day
I think the group introduction is harming this site. The only social part of the site that is doing well is items for sale, but it wont ever compete with Gumtree,Shpock and Ebay. -
Product details: iconBIT Mekotron 6 Hoverboard
For full details, including affected model numbers and manufacturer’s advice, click here.
Reason for recall:
Risk of fire
What should you do next?
Electrical Safety First recommends that anyone who discovers they have an electrical item that has been recalled should stop using it immediately
Check the product recall notification for details of what to do next
If no details are shown, you should contact either the seller or Citizens Advice on 03444 111 444 or visit them at www.citizensadvice.org.uk
More information on returning recalled products can be found here.
Checking your other electrical products
Our product checker contains the details of electrical products that have been recalled since 2007. If you have searched for a product that you own and it is not listed, this means that it has not been recalled and should be safe to use. However, if you do have concerns about its safety, contact the retailer or manufacturer to alert them to a potential problem.
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Product details: WHOOSH Ceiling fan
For full details, including affected model numbers and manufacturer’s advice, click here.
Reason for safety notice:
In Some instances the blades may break during use, posing a risk of injury.
What should you do next?
Electrical Safety First recommends that anyone who discovers they have an electrical item that has had a safety notice should use with care
Check the safety notice for details of what to do next
If no details are shown, you should contact either the seller or Citizens Advice on 03444 111 444 or visit them at www.citizensadvice.org.uk
Checking your other electrical products
Our product checker contains the details of electrical products that have been recalled since 2007. If you have searched for a product that you own and it is not listed, this means that it has not been recalled and should be safe to use. However, if you do have concerns about its safety, contact the retailer or manufacturer to alert them to a potential problem.
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A politician is a person active in party politics, or a person holding or seeking office in government. Politicians propose, support and create laws or policies that govern the land and, by extension, its people. Broadly speaking, a "politician" can be anyone who seeks to achieve political power in any bureaucratic institution.
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Think its time to buy a new one as this one is over 5 years old. It's got into a habit of doing a random shutdown more often than I would like.
I can only think of PCWorld which is local, John Lewis in Bluewater which is where I bought this laptop, or go online to ao.com. -
We hear all this talk about gobal warming, strange when see who is funding this
Everyday we hear we need to stop doing this eating that going there.
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Predict the Result - Arsenal v Burnley (Edited)
Match kicks off tomorrow at 12.30pm live of BT Sport
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Murder investigation launched after police officer dies - Berkshire
10:40 16/08/2019
A murder investigation has been launched after a Thames Valley Police officer died following an incident in Berkshire.
Thames Valley Police has launched a murder investigation following a serious incident which occurred at around 11.30pm last night (15/8) near to the A4, Bath Road, between Reading and Newbury.
The incident happened at the crossroads of Ufton Lane and Lambdens Hill, near to Sulhamstead.
Tragically, PC Andrew Harper from the Roads Policing Proactive Unit based at Abingdon Police Station, who was attending a reported burglary, was killed while performing his duties.
A scene watch remains in place at the scene of the incident and Ufton Lane and Lambdens Hill remain closed.
The A4, Bath Road has since re-opened.
Ten people have been arrested on suspicion of murder and are currently in police custody at various police stations across the Thames Valley.
Deputy Chief Constable Jason Hogg said: “Our deepest thoughts at this time are of course with Andrew’s friends and family, who are being supported by specially trained family liaison officers.
“Our thoughts also extend to all of Andrew’s colleagues within Thames Valley Police.
“As a force we are devastated at the loss of our colleague and will all be supporting each other at this difficult time.”
Senior investigating officer Detective Chief Inspector Stuart Blaik, of the Thames Valley Police Major Crime Unit, said: “This is a tragic incident, and I would like to reassure the public as well as our officers and staff that we have launched a full and thorough investigation to establish what has happened.
“We have made a total of ten arrests in connection with this incident, and those arrested are currently in police custody. Those arrested are all male and aged between 13 and 30.
“I would appeal to anyone who witnessed this incident to get in touch. If you have any information which you think could be at all relevant to our investigation, no matter how insignificant it may seem, please leave details on our website at https://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/tua/tell-us-about/cor/tell-us-about-existing-case-report/ or call 101.”
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Philadelphia Cheese advert banned
It's the one with the two dads looking after the babies. One of them is put on a conveyor belt by mistake because the dad is enjoying the cheese so much. He rescues the baby and says, "better not tell mum".
It's banned by the ASA because it reinforces gender steriotyping.
There was actually just one complaint.
The Volkswagen E-Golf ad was also banned for the same reason after only 3 complaints. It shows a woman on a park bench with a pram. -
London Luvvies vs Rural Pursuits
Challenging view from a "national treasure".
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/12/spare-rural-ignorance-labour-luvvies-posh-london-postcodes/ -
Predict The Result.
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Nigel Farage's rant about our Royal family?
What are your views of his rant whilst making a speech in Australia?
Personally I was appalled, especially speaking about the late Queen Mother, totally uncalled for. "He's a pound shop fascist who only drapes himself in the British flag when it suits".....I agreeThis discussion is now closed.
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What Has Happened To Courtesy?
Do you think courtesy and good manners are disappearing?
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This discussion is now closed.
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Apart from Skype and Facebook Messenger does anyone know of any websites that allow video calling from a laptop?
The family here have had a once a month Skype chat with my sister in Oman since she moved out there 12 years ago, but earlier this year her Skype was blocked. Oman is one of the countries that has banned Skype, so its a wonder she wasn't blocked sooner.
So we tried the video call option in Facebook Messenger and found it worked if we both used Chrome. That worked ok a few times but now her video camera "can't be found". At least we could still do a voice only call and she could see us.
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How has the main television in your home improved over time?
Only asking as I just got a new one.
Can only remember two televisions back because we keep them until they go wrong or become unwatchable.
The oldest one was I think a Ferguson and think dad bought it either Rumbelows or Dixons. It was a 26 inch. That was big back then. When it finally had to be replaced, dad needed a lot of persuading to go up in size, saying anything bigger would be too big for the room.
Next was a Sony 32 inch Full HD bought from the Sony shop. That was just over 11 years ago and cost £500. We've had to finally replace it because of a dark patch on the screen is making moody dark scenes in dramas almost unwatchable.
And now I have a JVC 40 inch 4K UHD bought online from Currys/PCWorld for £280.
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Heard today we are 4 weeks away from the next recession
Hold on to your horses next recession coming just into for Brexit madness
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Genuinely overhead in Waitrose
Woman bought a seeded batch loaf then came back with it half eaten hours later to complain there were too many seeds.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/07/waitrose-shopper-moans-that-too-many-seeds-in-bread-ruined-its-character-10532669/ -
After an elderly friend mentioned she got bitten and was lucky to be here to tell the tale I remembered the "Black Widow Spider" and a few incidents in our area in the past.
I Googled and found the spiders are on the increase all over England.
For more facts link:
https://www.healthline.com/health/black-widow-spider
You can google for pictures of bites and it is not very nice to look at.
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ELECTRICAL PRODUCT RECALL ALERT
Product details: Fluke T110, T130 and T150 Two-Pole Voltage Testers
For full details, including affected model numbers and manufacturer’s advice, click here.
Reason for recall:
Risk of electric shock due to false readings from product
What should you do next?
Electrical Safety First recommends that anyone who discovers they have an electrical item that has been recalled should stop using it immediately
Check the product recall notification for details of what to do next
If no details are shown, you should contact either the seller or Citizens Advice on 03444 111 444 or visit them at www.citizensadvice.org.uk
More information on returning recalled products can be found here.
Checking your other electrical products
Our product checker contains the details of electrical products that have been recalled since 2007. If you have searched for a product that you own and it is not listed, this means that it has not been recalled and should be safe to use. However, if you do have concerns about its safety, contact the retailer or manufacturer to alert them to a potential problem.
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Whirlpool Tumble Dryer Recall Program July 2019 (Edited)
ELECTRICAL PRODUCT RECALL ALERT
Product details: Whirlpool Tumble Dryer Recall Program July 2019
For full details, including affected model numbers and manufacturer’s advice, click here.
Reason for recall:
Risk of fire due to potential fluff build up within the appliance
What should you do next?
Electrical Safety First recommends that anyone who discovers they have an electrical item that has been recalled should stop using it immediately
Check the product recall notification for details of what to do next
If no details are shown, you should contact either the seller or Citizens Advice on 03444 111 444 or visit them at www.citizensadvice.org.uk
More information on returning recalled products can be found here.
Checking your other electrical products
Our product checker contains the details of electrical products that have been recalled since 2007. If you have searched for a product that you own and it is not listed, this means that it has not been recalled and should be safe to use. However, if you do have concerns about its safety, contact the retailer or manufacturer to alert them to a potential problem.
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Why are so many people obsessed with having so many friends on social media sites? Do you know these people personally, their backgrounds and habits? How do you know if someones online persona matches the person in 'real life'?
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Took a photograph of this car in the car park of the Waitrose car park in Alderley Edge this afternoon. Funny looking vehicle, not parked considerately and foreign number plate.
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Why do some people... (Edited)
... drone on and on?
Do they really feel that anyone gives a hoot what they think.
Give it up, get on with life, there is so much more to living than trying to prove that you are a better man than someone else - and failing miserably.
I am reminded of someone from a past life who tried to bully people just because he felt he could. Demanding things of people and attempting to ridicule when he failed. He ended up harming his own cause more than he ever gained.
Could I ask that we rub along with people rather than rub against them. I, like everyone else, form an opinion based on an overall picture not just what one person says. So join in and don't try to score points all the time. I will decide who I think is the better person and it will not be influenced by ridicule, other than in an adverse way.
Draw a line in the sand and let's give this group, and all the others, a feel good factor - not make it a platform for nastiness.
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I love Buffet Style eating and watched TV programme from Global in Watford.
The food looked lovely, lots of varieties from different countries.
Has anyone tried it?
However did not like the time limit and customers were asked to leave. Also some people had to queue for 2 hrs.
What do you think about the time limit?
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It's on BBC1 now, called This Country. It's so awful, not at all funny. And I do know its a spoof documentary series.
I've turned over to Discovery Shed to watch Chop Shop -
Geometric Design. (Edited)
My sister just sent me this photo. Her daughter, my niece, wanted her room redecorated in a geometric design. Shes 10! What do people think? I think it looks awesome. Dont take any notice of R/H wall. That has yet to be emulsioned in a different colour.
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Potholes near you (Edited)
The curse of the nation. I had some bad ones at end of my road which they finally fixed, now after 8 months they are crumbled again.
But today our roads are closed for the cyclists coming down in their hundreds, and guess what, the Council very kindly fixed all the potholes on their side.
We had cycle paths made too which cost a fortune, but hardly anyone goes on them.
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Another thread closed. (Edited)
Just in case anyone is wondering, it wasn't me that closed the thread I started, and I think it would be good manners if the person that did could at least explain why.
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New football season began today
What is your team how will they do , premier starts next weekend
Are there many happy hammers out there ?
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Tracking a new car from Factory to Dealership
When my brother ordered his new car the manager of the dealership was able to tell him exactly when it left the factory in Italy and which ship it was loaded on to in Maranello Port.
He was then able to track the ship using a website similar to the aircraft one flightradar24. The route it took wasn't what he was expecting, or rather the final destination of his car wasn't. it called into a port in France and stayed there 3 days. Then it called into Sheerness. As the Maserati dealership is in Tunbridge Wells, my brother called them to ask if the car had been unloaded ok. They said that's not where its being unljoaded. Then the ship went on to Hamburg before coming back to the UK to dock at Immingham. Which is where his car was unloaded and put onto a transporter for the journey south. -
Proud granddad thread (Edited)
Do other forum members agree that the only way threads can be closed is by moderators or admin, and not by individuals.
As nothing rude or nasty had been posted I would have been really embarrassed if one of my grandchildren had behaved in such a childish way, and the eldest one is only nine years old.This discussion is now closed.
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When two buses are cheaper than one
When going from Orpington (in the TFL zones) to Bluewater which is not.
I can take one bus, the 477, but as its an Arriva bus it costs about £4 as they are not part of TFL
Or I can take the 51 to Footscray, then the 492 to Bluewater for a total of £1.50 because both are TFL buses.
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Greenredeem are trying to scare me
Greenredeem is linked to Thames Water and they monitor how much water is being used compared with prevous weeks and also compared with the average for the same size household.
Logged in and it says that last week I used 1255 litres of water which is 8 car washes and 16 baths more than average. I normally use 1193 litres which is still above the average for a 2 person household.
I don't believe these figures and think Greenredeem are trying to scare me into thinking I need to save even more water. But I can't see where I can save much more. This is what I use most weeks.
Washing machine once a week
Shower once a week, rest of the time I just wash. During the hotter weather shower daily.
washing up once a day, one bowl of water.
Don't water the garden, don't have a car to wash.
toilet gets flushed no more than half a dozen times a dau
Only put enough water in the kettle for the 2 cups of tea each time
Brush my teeth without water - one of the things they say saves 100s of litres everytime